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During the last quarter of the 16 century, the Danish nobleman Tycho Brahe provide careful observation of the planets over an extended period of time (20 years).
He hoped to use his data to verify his own model of the solar system, in which the sun orbited th earth and all other planets orbited the sun.
At Brahes death at 1601, his assistant Johannes Kepler inherited the data that Brahes had accumulated.
Kepler spend some 20 years analyzing these data, looking for mathematical regularities.
He came to the conclusion that the ideal of circular orbits should be discarded and replaced with elliptical orbits.
Kepler summerized his laborious study of planetary motion with the following three laws:
1. The planets move in elliptical orbits with the sun at one focus.
2. A line from the sun to any planets sweeps out equal areas in equal time.
3. The square of a planet's period is proportional to the cube of the planet's mean distance from the sun.
This java applet let you play with Kepler's laws and learn more physics insight.

Study ,

when initial conditions changed

The red circle at the center of the screen represent the sun.
The moving yellow circle is the planet.
The initial condition is represented by the blue arrow.
The planet start from the starting point of the blue arrow,
and its initial velocoty is proportional to the length of the arrow.

You can drag the blue arrow to change its initial condition in three different modes:
1. fixed kinetic energy
2. fixed angular momentum
3. arbitrary
Find out the relation between shape and size of the trajectory with the above parameters.

Right click the mouse button to suspend the animation. Click it again to resume.
What if you click it with the left mouse button? Find out by yourself.
Use reset button to clear the screen. (Try to compare different trajectorys before press it!)
You can select four different mode to play with it.
For the energy mode or while you drag the mouse button:
The lower green curve is the potential energy : U(r)=-GMm/r
another one is the effective potential energy Ueff(r)=-GMm/r + L2/(2mr2)

The following is a flash movie which shows you what you can do with the above simulation.

Two horizontal red lines show the total energy of the particle. (watch the small moving dots! )
The period of the particle motion is also shown in real time unit.

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 « Embed this message Reply #1 on: January 30, 2004, 11:23:48 am » posted from:,,Satellite Provider

Subject: Re: thanks!
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 18:52:08 -0500
From: dgoodwin <dgoodwin@1st.net>
To: Fu-Kwun Hwang <hwang@phy03.phy.ntnu.edu.tw>
Thanks so much for taking the time to send me the http for circular motion and
ang. mo. I really appreciate it. It's great stuff. Bye for now. Dave G.

Fu-Kwun Hwang wrote:

> I am really sorry for the late reply. This message was misplaced.
> There are two java applets related to the angular
> Kepler motion: http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/java/Kepker/Kepler.html
> and circular motion
> http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/java/circularMotion/circular3D_e.html
>
> dgoodwin wrote:
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> > Do you have any applets on angular momentum??
> >
> > Fu-Kwun Hwang wrote:
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> > > dgoodwin wrote:
> > >
> > > > We were reviewing vector addition this evening at a study session.
> > > > Someone asked about help from the internet, so we searched and happened
> > > > to find your page. There were a few "ah-ha's" when the program showed
> > > > the parallelogram method for adding vectors so clearly. Thanks.
> > >
> > > I am very happy to know that you are enjoy the java applets. Any
> > > suggestions you might have about my java applets will be highly
> > > appreciated! Or , if you would like to have java applet one any topic
> > > related to physics,
> > > Just send me a note! Enjoy the virtual physics laboratory!
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 « Embed this message Reply #2 on: January 30, 2004, 12:44:33 pm » posted from:,,Satellite Provider

Subject: Very Nice Applet
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:34:25 -0500
From: Greg Hecht <ghecht@ix.netcom.com>
To: hwang@phy03.phy.ntnu.edu.tw
Very interesting and educational java applet, sir. My compliments.

I am not an astronomer but studied Kepler's laws years ago. Your applet
is the best tool I have ever seen to allow one to grasp the concepts.
Thank you for creating and sharing it.

Cheers,

Greg Hecht, MCSE
The Riverpoint Group, Ltd.
Kansas City
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 « Embed this message Reply #3 on: January 30, 2004, 12:49:23 pm » posted from:,,Satellite Provider

Subject: kepler motion applet
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:00:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: lee taishen <leetaishen@yahoo.com>
To: hwang@phy03.phy.ntnu.edu.tw
Dear Mr. Hwang,

Referring to the kepler motion applet in the below
http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/java/Kepler/Kepler.html
I find it very interesting. However, I have some
difficulties when using the applet.

1. For second kepler law, the area of the shaded area
and non-shaded area should be the same. However, there
is no data showing what the area is.

2. for third kepler law, i observed that there is no
indication of the period of the planet. There is this
T value indicated in the applet but it is not the
period. i would appreciate if you can explain what the
T value is.

thank you.

best regards
leetaishen
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 « Embed this message Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005, 11:07:53 pm »

Dear Friend,
I am looking for applets related to rotational motion, angular momentum, torque and kepler's laws to teach my students.

Can anybody help me?

with thanks,
Shiva: s_iva20290@yahoo.co.in
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 « Embed this message Reply #5 on: September 21, 2005, 07:16:02 am » posted from:Taipei,T'ai-pei,Taiwan

Please write down in more detail what kind of simulation you really want? (What kind of presentation/GUI view/...)
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 « Embed this message Reply #6 on: June 22, 2006, 03:19:32 pm »

Hallo,

you have written a nice applet.

I want to start writing physical applets. Could you send me some source code? It would help me to understand applet programming. :!:

At first I want to write an applet about the Kepler problem perhabs with an r^-a potential, so your applet would be a good start for me.

Thanks.

michael
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 « Embed this message Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 03:34:51 pm » posted from:Taipei,T'ai-pei,Taiwan

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 « Embed this message Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 12:53:30 pm »

Hello Mr Hwang

I do believe that it is more beatiful if this applet give some addition by giving user a chance to change the eccentricity of ellips, so people like me can also watch how much different between the rotation of earth and pluto...even it is a planet no more

Thanks....
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 « Embed this message Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 09:50:26 am »

You can do what you want with that applet.
If you did not change the default setting in the applet: Fix kinetic energy when change initial conditions.
You will get planet motion with the same eccentricity of ellips.

However, if you change it to "fix angular momentum", then you will get  planet motion with different eccentricity of ellips.

That is why I add the following sentences in the page:
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You can drag the blue arrow to change its initial condition in three different modes:
1. fixed kinetic energy
2. fixed angular momentum
3. arbitrary
Find out the relation between shape and size of the trajectory with the above parameters.

I hope students can really play with it and discover the difference , and figure out some relations!
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 « Embed this message Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 12:57:10 pm »

Dear Mr.Hwang

I'm a student majoring in CS. I'm preparing a code of Kepler's law.

Luckly I found your homepage and saw the simulation. That's really cool and great.

I tried your simulation for a long time and became curious how it was implemented.

If it's possible, could you send me the source code of the simulation?

That's would be greatly helpful to know the Kepler's Law and the Java programming both.

Hyuck
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 « Embed this message Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 03:39:08 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

I just sent you the source code. You should have received it now.
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 « Embed this message Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 06:19:17 am »

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 « Embed this message Reply #13 on: October 06, 2007, 05:51:11 pm »

I do not know how to help because you did not say what kind of help you need!
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 « Embed this message Reply #15 on: October 07, 2007, 12:02:30 pm »

Could you at least explain what you want to create? What kind of simulation? What you want to show in the simulation?
Do you have the formula now? What are the form of your formula? What is your model for the simulation?
There are so many information which you did not provide.

I think you also need to learn: How to ask a question effectively?  How to explain your problem?
If I do not have a very clear picture of what you really want to do. There is no way I can help.
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 « Embed this message Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 10:57:43 am »

Kepler is a simplify model to understand the motion of planets. If you want to know the detail of the trajectory,
yes. you need Newton's law.
You can check out motion of Moon, Earth relative to the Sun, which simulate gravitation forces between 3 objects. If you have more planets, it can be done with simulation easily. But you will have to set up the right initial conditions, otherwise, the system might not form a solar system if the total energy is not in the correct range.
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 « Embed this message Reply #18 on: November 08, 2007, 04:53:11 pm »

Hello,
Can you please send me source code for Kepler motion? Nice applet. Thx
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 « Embed this message Reply #19 on: November 08, 2007, 10:02:59 pm »

You should have received the source code now.
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 « Embed this message Reply #20 on: November 16, 2007, 03:49:19 pm »

Hello

it would be nice if you could send me the source code of the kepler s motion applet !!

thanks
tharses(tharses@hotmail.com)
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 « Embed this message Reply #21 on: November 16, 2007, 08:44:58 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

You should have received the source code now.
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 « Embed this message Reply #22 on: January 10, 2008, 09:25:46 pm »

Hello, your applet is extremely helpful to me and I was wondering if i could also possibly get the sourcecode for this applet as well... my email is azmodaii@gmail.com.

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 « Embed this message Reply #23 on: January 10, 2008, 10:58:09 pm »

You should have received the source code now.
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 « Embed this message Reply #24 on: January 11, 2008, 02:48:37 pm »

Dear Mr.Hwang, can you please send me source code for Kepler motion? thanks
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 « Embed this message Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 09:26:20 pm »

You should have received it now.
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 « Embed this message Reply #26 on: February 14, 2008, 04:27:16 am » posted from:MÃ©rida,Merida,Venezuela

Hi I am a student of physics from Venezuela...I really like your applet
Could you send me the source please?? I would appreciate it...
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 « Embed this message Reply #27 on: February 14, 2008, 10:32:12 am »

I just add the source code to the zip file for download because there are so many request for source code.
Please download it again(click get applet file for offline use button ) and you will find the source code.
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 « Embed this message Reply #28 on: February 15, 2008, 03:40:39 pm »

thank u so much for your help. i just got what i wanted !!! Thanks for adding source code file in zip ile.!!
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 « Embed this message Reply #29 on: February 15, 2008, 03:44:04 pm »

thank u so much for your help. i just got what i wanted !!!!!
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