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GwenArBreizhou
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 « Embed this message on: December 24, 2011, 10:48:34 pm » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Hi,
I would like to try the simulator to make a simulation where gravitational forces appears while you can change weight and radius of planets and distance from them.
I found E field and B field simultor but nothing for a G field ...

How can I do ?

Thans in advance for reply,
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 « Embed this message Reply #1 on: December 25, 2011, 05:20:19 pm » posted from:,,Satellite Provider

The following simulation show gravitation field as function of r.
You can change the radius of the planet with the slider.
You can also drag mouse to any position and the simulation will show gravitation field at the new mouse position.
I hope this is what you need!

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 « Embed this message Reply #2 on: December 25, 2011, 08:27:18 pm » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Thanks for reply.
This is part of what I would like to do.
I don't need gravitation field but just the force applied on an object which weight and position can be changed.
Also, I would like to be able to change weight of the planet and not only the radius.

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 « Embed this message Reply #3 on: December 25, 2011, 11:08:43 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

The weight of the object depends on gravitation field g and mass of the object m. i.e. weight =m*g

And Usually the mass/size of the object is much smaller than the planet.

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Also, I would like to be able to change weight of the planet and not only the radius.
Do you mean the mass of the planet instead of weight of the planet?

The mass of the planet is proportional to volume of the planet. $M=\rho\frac{4\pi r^3}{3}$
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 « Embed this message Reply #4 on: December 25, 2011, 11:23:03 pm » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Do you mean the mass of the planet instead of weight of the planet?

Yes of course.
Sorry but each time I used "weight", I meant "mass".

The mass of the planet is proportional to volume of the planet. $M=\rho \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}$

In a way yes. But it depends on density.
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 « Embed this message Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 02:23:45 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

I modified the code: you can change the density,too!
And it will display gravitation field.
If you need the force, just multiple the gravitation field by mass of the object.

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 « Embed this message Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 04:23:40 pm » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Thanks for these modifications.

It seems to be a problem while if r > 0.6, g don't change anymore.

As the gravitation field is concerned, would it be possible to have it as an option because I work with 15 years old students and it will be difficult for them to understand the meaning of such a field ?

Can we have instead a cursor where m of the object can be changed and the value of force would appears in the simulation ?

thanks in advance,
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 « Embed this message Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 07:18:27 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

The initial value for diameter is D=0.6 (mean r=D/2=0.3).
g=0.42 is gravitation field strength at r=0.3

The gravitation field will not change if you increase the radius of the planet.
(The uniform mass outside radius r will not contribute to gravitation field).

I added an object (blue dot) and user can adjust it's mass with slider.
The gravitation force is shown as black arrow.
User can drag the object with mouse,too!
I hope this version is closer to what you need!
Enjoy it!
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 « Embed this message Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 03:45:10 am » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

I hope this version is closer to what you need!

Yes in fact, it is.
To achieve, I would like to know if the gravitational potential could be an option like "g" and if it's possible to put a legend (planet, object, gravitational force, gravitational field) and to let me do a french version of this simulation.

Thanks in advance (I hope it's the last time ;o))
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 « Embed this message Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 10:00:11 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

The simulation has been modified according to your suggestion!
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 « Embed this message Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 04:46:00 am » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Hi,
I begin to use your simulation with students (15 years old) without translating it because I don't remember how to do it.
Can you refresh my memory ?

The student are a little surprised with the potential curve. Would it be possible to put it as an option ?

Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
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 « Embed this message Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 08:37:12 am » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

The simulation has been modified (add an option for show V:potential curve).

For the translation: Please check out How to translate a simulation created with EJS

You are also welcomed to check out Getting started with EJS
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 « Embed this message Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 08:29:05 pm » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Hi,
I got a problem. When I right-click on the simulation and ask for opening EJS model, I'm told that "Easy Java Simulations are not found" as you can see in the attached file.

I tried as well after putting your users_ntnu_fkh_gravitationfnr.ejs in the directory but I got the same message.

What can I do ?

Thanks for reply,
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 « Embed this message Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 10:25:10 pm » posted from:Uberaba,Minas Gerais,Brazil

I believe the applet gonna work if you mark use original path, try do it again, he gonna work with you.
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 « Embed this message Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 10:28:25 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

1. You need to install EJS (just unzip the file)
2. run EJSConsole.jar and you need to select working directory when you run it for the first time.
You can select workspace under EJS installed directory.
However, I would suggest you create another directory under root (e.g. c:\workspace).
This would be easier when you install new version later. (because you do not need to change working directory again)
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 « Embed this message Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 01:20:30 am » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

Hi,
I finally managed to translate the simulation. I therefore attach the version that can get it in French.
Thank you for all that time spent helping me,
Regards,
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 « Embed this message Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 03:52:53 pm » posted from:LONDON,ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM

I just added another option (a link just below the applet).User can translate strings in simulation to different language format with web interface before download.

However, user need to make sure the character coding for the browser should be set to utf-8 (i.e. unicode).
User will be able to download updated jar file after the translation has been done.
You can try it with the above simulation.
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 « Embed this message Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 05:51:05 am » posted from:Messac,Bretagne,France

I've just tried but I obtained an error 404

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The requested URL /ntnujava/users/2/ejs_gravitationfnr.jar was not found on this server.
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 « Embed this message Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 03:12:46 pm » posted from:Taipei,T'ai-pei,Taiwan

I just download it without any problem, please try it again!
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 « Embed this message Reply #19 on: December 21, 2012, 12:15:38 pm » posted from:Islamabad,Islamabad,Pakistan

Artificial gravity is the varying (increase or decrease) of apparent gravity (g-force) via artificial means, particularly in space, but also on the Earth. It can be practically achieved by the use of some different forces, particularly the centrifugal force and linear acceleration (fictitious forces).

The creation of artificial gravity is considered desirable for long-term space travel or habitation, for ease of mobility, for in-space fluid management, and to avoid the adverse long-term health effects of weightlessness.
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 « Embed this message Reply #20 on: March 28, 2015, 02:40:35 pm » posted from:,,Satellite Provider

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 « Embed this message Reply #21 on: May 06, 2015, 12:49:02 pm » posted from:Singapore,,Singapore

dear prof,

the potential requires a negative sign

http://iwant2study.org/lookangejss/02_newtonianmechanics_7gravity/ejss_model_gravity07_1/gravity07_1_Simulation.xhtml

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