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Fu-Kwun Hwang
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A small sphere of mass m is attached to the end of a cord of length R, which rotates under the influence of the gravitation force in a vertical circle about a fixed point.
This applet shows how the speed of the sphere and the tension of the cord change.-*-

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 « Embed this message Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 08:36:42 pm » posted from:Singapore,,Singapore

Hi Prof,
actually this applet simulate a rod instead of a string.
i check the codes, it does not model projectile motion if the tension is insufficient to provide the centripetal acceleration.
is my understanding correct?

is would be cool if u could also release a string version!
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 « Embed this message Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 09:15:09 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

Do you mean you want to simulate the case when the velocity is not large enough so the the particle become projectile motion?
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 « Embed this message Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 09:30:21 pm » posted from:Singapore,,Singapore

A small sphere of mass m is attached to the end of a cord of length R, which rotates under the influence of the gravitation force in a vertical circle about a fixed point.
This applet shows how the speed of the sphere and the tension of the cord change.-*-

Yes, a cord/string version would be a good addition to your collection of simulation.

and the words in the top post should be rod instead of cord, because T can be negative to become support force on the mass m.
if cord=string then model would change to projectile motion when T - m*g*cos(theta) < m*v^2/r imply T = 0 and the motion is under gravity field only.

the difference is subtle but some sg school teacher use this example to trick the students during level test.
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 « Embed this message Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 04:13:27 pm » posted from:Taipei,T'ai-pei,Taiwan

I did created a simulation similar to what you have described.
However, it is only available in Chinese version. 雲霄飛車的物理:

I will create a new EJS version and post it here.
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 « Embed this message Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 01:30:40 pm » posted from:Chicago,Illinois,United States

nice!
but i need an Ejs version to work on.
i doubt i can make one with different evolution equations
np
i try to learn from http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/index.php?topic=448.0
and http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/index.php?topic=1803.0
thanks!
the location is Chicago,Illinois,United States, i am at Portland Oregon USA now
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 « Embed this message Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 10:52:00 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

Are you in the U.S. for AAPT meeting now?

I just created a quick verison of what you might need.

You can drag the gray dot to different height.
The string mode is what you want.

The following applet can be used to illustrate
1. conservation of energy
2. Collision between two particles. (two partialces are the same mass in the current version. I will add options for different mass later).
3. Pendulum or circular motion in vertical plane.

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 « Embed this message Reply #7 on: July 16, 2010, 03:14:21 am » posted from:Chicago,Illinois,United States

Are you in the U.S. for AAPT meeting now?
yes, it is from 17-21 july, here earlier to buy stuff and enjoy the trip.

I just created a quick version of what you might need.

You can drag the gray dot to different height.
The string mode is what you want.

The following applet can be used to illustrate
1. conservation of energy
2. Collision between two particles. (two particles are the same mass in the current version. I will add options for different mass later).
3. Pendulum or circular motion in vertical plane.
it is awesome man! i will look at code soon
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 « Embed this message Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 12:39:23 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

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 « Embed this message Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010, 01:37:43 pm » posted from:Chicago,Illinois,United States

will work on it!
the code is simply great for learning.
thanks!

U should also start a new topic as well for the google search engine to tag your fantastic applet.
or i could do for u?
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 « Embed this message Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010, 02:22:06 pm » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

You can post your modified version to a new topic.
Add collision with different mass might be too complicated for students.
I decided to keep the applet for the case of equal mass only.
It is similar to the Chinese version (single object sliding down the hill and turn into circular motion).

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 « Embed this message Reply #11 on: July 16, 2010, 11:12:55 pm » posted from:SAO PAULO,SAO PAULO,BRAZIL

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Are you in the U.S. for AAPT meeting now?
Is this AAPT meeting i find on internet by google search  http://www.aapt.org/Conferences/sm2010/upload/Program-Book-7-7-10.pdf
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 « Embed this message Reply #12 on: July 17, 2010, 12:04:10 am » posted from:Chicago,Illinois,United States

yes!
page 91
FI05:  2:40–2:50 p.m.  Physics Educators as Designers of
Simulation Using Easy Java Simulation
Loo Kang WEE, Ministry of Education Singapore, MOE Building, 1 North
Buona Vista Dr. (S)138675, Singapore, 519935; weelookang@gmail.com
To deepen the professional practice of physics educators, we seek to high-
light the Open Source Physics (OSP) and Easy Java Simulation (Ejs) com-
munity of educators that engage, enable and empower teachers as learners
so that we can be leaders in our teaching practice. We learned through
Web 2 online collaborative means to develop simulations together with
reputable physicists through the open source digital library. By examining
the open source codes of the simulation through the Ejs toolkit, we are able
to examine and make sense of the physics from the computational models
created by practicing physicists. We will share some of the simulations that
we have remixed from existing library of simulations models into suitable
learning environments for inquiry of physics.
http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/index.php?board=28.0
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 « Embed this message Reply #13 on: July 17, 2010, 12:18:05 am » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

Great! I hope you have nice trip there and I believe you will learn a lot during the meeting.  Enjoy it! :-)
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 « Embed this message Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 11:19:02 am » posted from:Chicago,Illinois,United States

http://sgeducation.blogspot.com/2010/07/physics-educators-as-designers-of.html

Enjoy! Spreading the word for Open Source Physics and NTNUJAVA Virtual Physics Laboratory.
This professional learning community (PLC) in physics is simply awesome!

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 « Embed this message Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 11:50:51 am » posted from:Taipei,T\'ai-pei,Taiwan

It is really a wonderful talk. Thanks to the modern technology, I can watch/listen to your talk from Taiwan.
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 « Embed this message Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 05:22:47 pm » posted from:Uberaba,Minas Gerais,Brazil

Great talk is really wonderful,, congratulation about this great meeting,, i watch/listen to you talk like prof Hwang but from Brazil
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 « Embed this message Reply #17 on: December 30, 2014, 12:10:40 am » posted from:Bekasi,Jawa Barat,Indonesia

great idea  http://www.thejual.com/
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